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Hi,
I've tried SolusOS Budgie and Mate.
There is a problem with the swiss-french keyboard. It's not a swiss french keyboard; it seems to be a classical frech keyboard. And there is problems with all "French (Switzerland)" keyboards : Macintosh, Sun... There are "German (Switzerland) keyboards o "French" keyboards.
So, your OS can't be used normaly for swiss people who use french.

I'm sorry about my poor english.
Have a nice day
Grompf

Event Timeline

ermo raised the priority of this task from Low to Unbreak Now!.May 9 2019, 3:58 AM
ermo moved this task from Backlog to System and Configuration Fixes on the Software board.
JoshStrobl lowered the priority of this task from Unbreak Now! to Low.May 9 2019, 4:05 AM

I'm not sure you really understood the problem.

The "French (Switzerland)" keyboard has nothing to do with a "French (France)" AZERTY keyboard, except that both are designed to type in French. It is a QWERTZ layout, basically the same than the "German (Switzerland)" one, with a few letters swapped (é/ö, à/ä, è/ü).

When selecting "French (Switzerland)", the Solus installer gives you a French AZERTY, which is very different and not usable for people used to Swiss keyboards. Even a US QWERTY is way more similar to Swiss keyboards than the French one is.

So unless you definitely don't care that people using this keyboard don't use Solus, you should really fix this, which shouldn't be much of a big deal.

Thanks.

We just ship the keymaps. If they are mislabeled or incorrect, that's an upstream issue. If this isn't such a big deal to fix I'd love to hear what exactly it is you are proposing that we change about our package to correct this? I would also defer to @Girtablulu as he is actually from Switzerland and likely has more insight into this problem than any of the rest of us maintainers.

@DataDrake I'd just like to say that Solus is the only distro which I have ever used which has this problem, so it probably is not a simple mislabeling caused by the upstream.

Additionally, I think Grompf didn't describe the problem well enough (if we encountered the same problem):
If you install Solus choosing the QWERTY "French (Switzerland)" layout during the installation, the installed OS has the AZERTY "French" layout. When you have the freshly installed OS, the first thing you have to type is your password. If you have the AZERTY layout while expecting a QWERTY layout, you can't even login and the OS is literally unusable. Unless you understand how to workaround the bug, there is no way to login in the freshly installed OS if you use any of the keys with a different position in your password.

I confirm that this is clearly a Solus related problem, I regularly install various Linux systems with that keymap and none of them give me such an issue.

Often this layout is to be found as a variant of "German (Switzerland)" so you have to select German (Switzerland) > French (Switzerland). Some other distributions list both as "Switzerland (French)" and "Switzerland (German)". I don't remember seeing it listed between other French keyboards, may this help you.

Apologies, this wasn't labelled as installation it was labelled as system configuration, so I assumed this was an issue with language selection after installation, not the installer itself. The installer is certainly our problem and now that I know more precisely what the issue is, we can look into it.

@ERR@: Couldn't set the keyboard layout: Command 'setxkbmap fr_nodeadkeys' returned non-zero exit status 251

Le sigh.

Fixed in the installer: https://github.com/getsolus/os-installer/commit/836cd2a53ed303ef90e74ec30fce87c4c3e87edc

I'll see that this gets into the next ISO. Thank you all for reporting this as it affects much much more than just your keyboard layout.

Hello,

I just tried Solus 4.2 Plasma and ran into this problem again.

Keyboard selection in the installer itself works fine, selecting French (Switzerland) and then typing text in the test field gives the expected characters.

However, after rebooting to the installed system, SDDM and Plasma are both set to a French (France) keyboard, which means typing your password doesn't work and you can't login to your account unless you know how to type your password on a French AZERTY keyboard.

DataDrake changed the task status from Frozen to Migrated.Feb 21 2022, 4:38 PM