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Description

New browser, based off Electron, still being developed, focused on security, speed, and blocking of "obtrusive ads," with an option to replace them with "safe ads." Runs smoothly so far on Windows, being actively worked on.

Name: Brave
Homepage: https://www.brave.com/
Open Source?: Yes
Raw x64 Linux Binaries: https://laptop-updates.brave.com/latest/linux64
Source Code: https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop

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based off Chromium

Not really, is another Electron-based guy

and blocking of "obtrusive ads," with an option to replace them with "safe ads."

Why this and not Firefox/Chrome/Vivaldi/Opera with a extension similar as the Brave ad-blocking stuff?

Not really, is another Electron-based guy

You're right, fixed. Thanks

Why this and not Firefox/Chrome/Vivaldi/Opera with a extension

It looks and feels different. It's faster on some online benchmarks, including Jetstream and Octane, then all other major browsers.

Source: Benchmark tests: How the Brave browser compares with Chrome, Firefox, and IE 11

I like their platform and I feel it could make ads great again (as The Donald might say). I don't have Solus installed yet, nor do I know how to package/upload a compiled package for Solus, so I posted my request here. Give Brave a download, it's my new default browser and is being developed rapidly.

JoshStrobl triaged this task as Low priority.Sep 10 2016, 2:33 PM
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Would be great if Brave was added. They incorporate many privacy features that are not obvious for people (like canvas blocking etc) plus probably because the adblocking etc is build in it turns out faster.

The only thing I had to install to get it running on Solus was libgnome-keyring.

Really? That's awesome! I'll give it a go then. Perhaps it could be fully packaged and integrated soon... Great news! I also like the introduction of the ETH blockchain to Brave. Looks like they're really creating a new browsing experience (earn money by watching safe ads). Everyone wins!

How is this different from Cliqz? These guys bought Ghostery and also created a privacy-focused browser based on Firefox. Has anyone compared them?

From their website, and from my experience of using Brave, the difference appears to be in approach, methodology, and development team experience.

The Brave development team is focused on not just blocking trackers, ads, etc., but supplying a way where users are given an incentive to view "safe ads" that still support content producers while the end user makes money. Cliqz is more about just blocking ads... Nothing special about that.

Brave, though originating in Firefox, transitioned to Electrum and is its own unique browser, not some modified Firefox. Brave also, as I mentioned before, is implementing a unique blockchain (anonymous) system to pay users and producers. Cliqz provides instant search results and ad blocking, again, nothing unique.

Finally, the Brave development team strated at Firefox but left due to a difference in opinion on multiple issues. They have experience and determination to change the way ads are delivered online. Cliqz has capital, but I can not speak for their vision or experience.

This is not to say Cliqz is bad, I just know that Brave is trying to be really unique here and have a different underlying philosophy altogether. Some benchmarks also showed Brave to be faster and less resource intensive than other browsers , so there is also a practical reason to use the browser. From my experience of using Ghostery, I can not imagine Cliqz is a minimalist browser.

How is this different from Cliqz? These guys bought Ghostery and also created a privacy-focused browser based on Firefox. Has anyone compared them?

CLIQZ is just slightly modified Firefox.

@JGH1000 I installed the raw x64 binaries as stated at the bottom of this page, after installing libgnome-keyring, and low and behold, the mighty Brave Browser is up and running! Thank you! If I knew how to package this, I would, as it seems simple. Works like a charm!

@TheMarketAnarchist Except that isn't how it'd be packaged, it'd need to be built from source.

@JoshStrobl any chance you could have a look at this when you have a moment? Seems there is a lot of interest in the browser but not from people who know how to package it. For whatever reason Brave is literally 2-3 times faster for me than Firefox, would be nice to have it in the official app centre. Thanks in advance!

can i just add my voice to the people already requesting the BRAVE web browser
i use this on my windows desktop at work
i use this on my iphone
i would LOVE to use it on Solus
It is available on other linux flavours already
i believe the look & feel of the browser would be a perfect fit for Solus

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BRM added a comment.EditedAug 27 2017, 10:32 PM

It looks very, very promising, but it needs to be built with extension support and, as far as I can tell (based on my own experience), it's still very buggy with AMD GPUs. Also comes with a myriad of platform independent bugs. Personally, I would consider this alpha software.

Edit: the brave that comes with the snap package can't use certain fonts, which is odd and makes for a poor browsing experience.

hey guys - you can install the brave browser as a snap package on to solus 3 - been running BEAUTIFULLY
i heard Ikey disclose how to do it on Linux Unplugged episode 210 after about 43 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTr_S8BHqY&t=3006s
give it a try - best linux flavour with the best browser

@glent54 Thank you so much! For people wanting the command to install Brave, it's

sudo snap install brave --beta

--beta can also be --edge. They are the same version currently, but I assume the --edge branch is updated more frequently.

orschiro removed a subscriber: orschiro.Aug 30 2017, 7:14 AM

Because this is now offered as a Snap, will this be included when the SC updates to use snaps/flatpaks natively?

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Yea - snaps will be featured directly in the SC after next week!

Justin added a subscriber: Justin.Sep 23 2017, 2:03 AM

Can confirm snap works alright, if not a bit ugly, but that's a snap issue I believe in pulling in theme info.

Jacalz added a subscriber: Jacalz.EditedNov 13 2017, 12:03 PM

You really should make this higher priority than low! Brave is not chrome with integrated adblock and a new ui!
Brave is a whole lot more:

  • Brave has a payments system that pays sites that you visit acording to the time that you visit and look at those sites all with maining your privacy by encrypting and running anonomize protocols. Brave pays them with their own crypto currency called BAT (Basic Attention Token) and in the future the plan is to pay the users a tiny bit for their attention to using Brave ads that don contain any trackers.
  • The future plan is to make private tabs private for real by integrating Tor into them and thus keeping you secure and private on the web.
  • Brave blocks trackers and fingerprinting to stop sites from spying on you
  • Brave and all of its components are open source on github avaliable easily to everyone
  • Brave is owned by Brendan Eich that created JavaScript
  • Brave has awsome features that make working easier:

You can move your mouse over tabs to preview the tab, great if you write a document and have a site with information in another.

You can have session tabs that runs a differnet session where you can be logged in to different accounts. Very useful if you have two twitter accounts and more.

  • Brave and their users are growing rapidly and Brave has expanded their team with almost 300% since january this year.

would Solus ever take the "brave" decision and use Brave as their default internet browser ?
(more chance possibly if they had an email client as a matched pair i.e. firefox & thunderbird)

would Solus ever take the "brave" decision and use Brave as their default internet browser ?

Probably not, no.

Firefox is good enough. Brave is for the extremists :)

logTom added a subscriber: logTom.EditedJan 10 2018, 10:42 AM

Sadly I have to kinda quote lunduke here -
Recent events showed firefox (or better said the mozilla corp) is no longer trustworthy.
If you want a browser that installs extensions without telling you about it.
If you want a browser that collects (or helps collect for others) data on you without your consent or knowledge.
If you want a browser that actively works to restrict the content you can asscess via DRM.
If you want a browser from a vendor that funds organizations that specifically exclude and block you.
If you want a browser from a vendor who actively works to censor you.
...
Go with firefox.

+1 to make brave the default browser.
Lunduke did an interview with the man behind it, check it out
http://lunduke.com/2018/01/09/brendan-eich-interview-lunduke-show-special-jan-9th-2018/

+1
i agree with logTom
if only Brave had their own email system to tie in with the browser THEN the likes of Solus would be in position to jump ship
provided that there is no financial reason to retain the Mozilla twins

If you want a browser that collects (or helps collect for others) data on you without your consent or knowledge.

It's anonymous telemetry and their telemetry server is open source. This isn't a privacy issue.

If you want a browser that actively works to restrict the content you can asscess via DRM.

DRM support enables via HTML5 EME the ability to watch more content that you otherwise wouldn't be able to watch. How you think it restricts is beyond me.

If you want a browser from a vendor that funds organizations that specifically exclude and block you.

I don't really know what you're on about here, but it's a web browser, that we compile and ship. Let's try to leave politics out of this, same regarding the "censorship" comment.

+1 to make brave the default browser.

This isn't going to happen.

THEN the likes of Solus would be in position to jump ship

No, we wouldn't. Thunderbird is perfectly sufficient, a dedicated application, and would frankly be far superior to a browser-integrated solution.


Honestly at this point I'm leaning towards closing this task and requesting people just install Brave's snap.

I'm using Brave for broken websites which have problems on Firefox and I don't understand why you won't to use snap on distro that fully supports it.

  1. It's official and recommend way
  2. Easier for Solus (1 less package to maintain)
  3. Sooner upgrades to latest version
  4. More secure thanks to sandboxing

When Solus SC gains support for snapcraft you will be able to install it via GUI and it will make no sense to hold it in the repo anymore.

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logTom added a comment.EditedJan 11 2018, 8:38 AM

I have no problem with installing brave via snap.

It's anonymous telemetry and their telemetry server is open source. This isn't a privacy issue.

I mean the Cliqz "experiment".

DRM support enables via HTML5 EME the ability to watch more content that you otherwise wouldn't be able to watch. How you think it restricts is beyond me.

There should not be restricted content in the first place. Quoting Mozillas mission statement: "Our mission is to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all."
Mozilla voted to get DRM into the html specification. How does restricted content goes along with that mission statement?

I don't really know what you're on about here, but it's a web browser, that we compile and ship. Let's try to leave politics out of this, same regarding the "censorship" comment.

Yes, these things may be a bit political, but are all facts.

This isn't going to happen.

Well, that's up to you to decide.
I'm having a hard time recommending firefox. Let's hope their management staff get's their shit together soonish.

if only Brave had their own email system to tie in with the browser THEN the likes of Solus would be in position to jump ship
provided that there is no financial reason to retain the Mozilla twins

Thunderbird is perfectly fine.
I'm quoting Ryan Sipes (Community Manager of Thunderbird) here.
Mozilla has no say in the governance of Thunderbird.
They have their own separate Thunderbird council.
They are actively working to get away from Mozillas infrastructure.

fermulator added a comment.EditedJan 17 2018, 1:45 PM

I agree with the spirit of this ask ; Mozilla (Firefox) is no longer trustworthy, (their actions ... of 2017 and prior have added up to conclude this - only a significant management change and public statement could save them now... ). Google (Chrome) was never trustworthy. Brave is possibly a leading contender.

At this time, leaving Firefox as the default browser in _any_ distro may be considered undesirable by many.

Even if Brave is installable via snappy, (for which an entirely other argument ensues over AppImage vs. Flatpack ...; and, does "snap refresh pkg_name" work always? can it be auto-updated for security updates? ... ), this leaves the user with an untrustworthy default browser.

+1 for Brave in the repository native.

BRM added a comment.Jan 17 2018, 6:38 PM

To the people in favour of installing via snap, the fonts look like ass, specially hiragana.

(@sponsi ; may may be incorrectly "clocking time" against this issue btw)

bads.tm added a subscriber: bads.tm.Feb 2 2018, 6:59 PM

: up :

almost wanted to send this
"Name of the software :
Brave

Project/product Homepage :
https://brave.com/

Why we should include this into the repository, i.e. what does it do that the alternatives do not?
"Browse faster by blocking ads and trackers that violate your privacy and cost you time and money." (from site)
Blocks ads and trackers by default, no extra steps needed to get blocker working (for most people, one more step to enable few lists like prebake.eu and easylist for their country)
Also has publishers program which will let people support sites and (youtube) creators using https://basicattentiontoken.org/ thing

Is it open source? :
Yes https://github.com/brave https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop

If it is open source, please provide a link to the most up to date, versioned source tarball/zipfile. master.zip links will not be accepted.
(I guess this https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/releases/download/v0.20.30dev/brave.tar.bz2 might be ok?)

If there are no upstream releases but the inclusion policy is otherwise met, please provide a link to the source repository (i.e. GitHub)
https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop

(It's my first request, if something sorry)"

Jacalz added a subscriber: taaem.Mar 20 2018, 1:30 PM

I have tested it now when it is in stable and I can happily say that Brave works like a dream in Solus! Thanks a lot @taaem ?

Thanks for including. I removed the snap package and installed it via the software center.
What doesn't work for me with the software center version is clicking on links in other apps (tested with slack, vscode).
For example a coworker sends me a link in slack and I click on it. Now Brave gains focus but it doesn't open the link.

I think I ran into an issue on Solus Mate with it where there was no icon for Brave in the tray when you have the browser open. I don´t think I hade the problem on Budgie but I will look in to it more later today.

There is now a new version of Brave avaliable 0.21.24 and I tried updating it but I could not get it to build strangely but 0.21.18 wanted to build just fine :I